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2012年2月19日星期日

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SYMPTOMS
If you attempt to make changes to a row in a table
displayed in SQL Server Enterprise Manager (SEM), unless
you scroll down to the end of the table (the last row of
the table), Enterprise Manager returns the following
error:
Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode.
CAUSE
When using SEM to display the rows from a table, all rows
are returned by a "firehose cursor"; however, only the
rows that are displayed have been processed. A "firehose
cursor" refers to how the server sends rows to the client
as fast as the client can process them. Rows that are not
displayed in the Enterprise Manager are not processed and,
therefore, they remain in the network buffer.
The "Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode"
error occurs when an OLE-DB provider attempts to perform a
join transaction with results pending and while not in an
updateable cursor mode.
WORKAROUND
Scroll all the way down to the last row of the table. This
forces all the rows to be processed. You can then edit the
row needed and execute the update.

>--Original Message--
>I just got the following message after trying to update
>records in a sql table:
>"transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
>any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks
>.
>> Aaron's suggestion did not work.
What does "did not work" mean?
http://www.aspfaq.com/
(Reverse address to reply.)

firehouse mode

Firehouse mode

I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat'Are you talking about some error message regarding a cursor in
*firehose* mode? Can you post the actual error message and the steps
you took to get there?
If you're talking about a firehose cursor message then a firehose cursor
is basically a read-only forward-only cursor. It is the default and
fastest cursor mode for retrieving data from SQL server (when using
cursors that is; but typically set-based queries are faster than
cursor-based queries).
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d... />
7_7d6b.asp
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ncz wrote:

>I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
>while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat'
>|||Everything Mike said is accurate, so I won't add more detail about WHY it's
happening...
This is most commonly seen in Server Enterprise Manager, when you right
click a table and go "return all rows." Then, after modifying a row, you
can't save the table.
Return the row you want to modify through a query, or better yet, modify the
row from Query Analyzer.
Donna
"ncz" wrote:

> I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processe
s
> while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat'|||It basically means that the connection on which you are executing the query
has pending results - i.e. client app has not fetched the last row yet. One
possibility is that you have connection pooling enabled, but your app is not
properly cleaning up resources when queries fail, and leave connections
behind with pending results. The connection is then reused for another spid
and firehose error is raised. Try setting SET XACT_ABORT ON to force SQL to
clean up all resources on SQL error or timeout.
Seach http://support.microsoft.com for "firehose" for additional information
about this error and ways to resolve it.
Adrian
"ncz" <ncz@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ECE78504-DAFD-4C2E-8762-18A3A02144BB@.microsoft.com...
>I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
> while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat'

firehouse mode

SYMPTOMS
If you attempt to make changes to a row in a table
displayed in SQL Server Enterprise Manager (SEM), unless
you scroll down to the end of the table (the last row of
the table), Enterprise Manager returns the following
error:
Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode.
CAUSE
When using SEM to display the rows from a table, all rows
are returned by a "firehose cursor"; however, only the
rows that are displayed have been processed. A "firehose
cursor" refers to how the server sends rows to the client
as fast as the client can process them. Rows that are not
displayed in the Enterprise Manager are not processed and,
therefore, they remain in the network buffer.
The "Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode"
error occurs when an OLE-DB provider attempts to perform a
join transaction with results pending and while not in an
updateable cursor mode.
WORKAROUND
Scroll all the way down to the last row of the table. This
forces all the rows to be processed. You can then edit the
row needed and execute the update.

>--Original Message--
>I just got the following message after trying to update
>records in a sql table:
>"transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
>any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks
>.
>
> Aaron's suggestion did not work.
What does "did not work" mean?
http://www.aspfaq.com/
(Reverse address to reply.)

Firehouse mode

I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat?
Are you talking about some error message regarding a cursor in
*firehose* mode? Can you post the actual error message and the steps
you took to get there?
If you're talking about a firehose cursor message then a firehose cursor
is basically a read-only forward-only cursor. It is the default and
fastest cursor mode for retrieving data from SQL server (when using
cursors that is; but typically set-based queries are faster than
cursor-based queries).
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...on_07_7d6b.asp
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
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ncz wrote:

>I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
>while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat?
>
|||Everything Mike said is accurate, so I won't add more detail about WHY it's
happening...
This is most commonly seen in Server Enterprise Manager, when you right
click a table and go "return all rows." Then, after modifying a row, you
can't save the table.
Return the row you want to modify through a query, or better yet, modify the
row from Query Analyzer.
Donna
"ncz" wrote:

> I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
> while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat?
|||It basically means that the connection on which you are executing the query
has pending results - i.e. client app has not fetched the last row yet. One
possibility is that you have connection pooling enabled, but your app is not
properly cleaning up resources when queries fail, and leave connections
behind with pending results. The connection is then reused for another spid
and firehose error is raised. Try setting SET XACT_ABORT ON to force SQL to
clean up all resources on SQL error or timeout.
Seach http://support.microsoft.com for "firehose" for additional information
about this error and ways to resolve it.
Adrian
"ncz" <ncz@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ECE78504-DAFD-4C2E-8762-18A3A02144BB@.microsoft.com...
>I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
> while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat?

firehouse mode

I just got the following message after trying to update
records in a sql table:
"transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanksWhat does your code look like? My suggestion is to not use recordset
objects in ADO to modify data. Send UPDATE statements instead...
--
http://www.aspfaq.com/
(Reverse address to reply.)
"Lisa P" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:940101c478a1$06a5e660$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
> I just got the following message after trying to update
> records in a sql table:
> "transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
> any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks|||hi Aaron -
I am entering data directly into a table, no query.
>--Original Message--
>What does your code look like? My suggestion is to not
use recordset
>objects in ADO to modify data. Send UPDATE statements
instead...
>--
>http://www.aspfaq.com/
>(Reverse address to reply.)
>
>
>"Lisa P" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:940101c478a1$06a5e660$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
>> I just got the following message after trying to update
>> records in a sql table:
>> "transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
>> any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks
>
>.
>|||Use an UPDATE statement in Query Analyzer, do not "enter data directly into
a table"...
--
http://www.aspfaq.com/
(Reverse address to reply.)
"Lisa P" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:973d01c478a7$ed278c00$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> hi Aaron -
> I am entering data directly into a table, no query.
> >--Original Message--
> >What does your code look like? My suggestion is to not
> use recordset
> >objects in ADO to modify data. Send UPDATE statements
> instead...
> >
> >--
> >http://www.aspfaq.com/
> >(Reverse address to reply.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Lisa P" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:940101c478a1$06a5e660$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> I just got the following message after trying to update
> >> records in a sql table:
> >> "transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
> >> any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks
> >
> >
> >.
> >|||SYMPTOMS
If you attempt to make changes to a row in a table
displayed in SQL Server Enterprise Manager (SEM), unless
you scroll down to the end of the table (the last row of
the table), Enterprise Manager returns the following
error:
Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode.
CAUSE
When using SEM to display the rows from a table, all rows
are returned by a "firehose cursor"; however, only the
rows that are displayed have been processed. A "firehose
cursor" refers to how the server sends rows to the client
as fast as the client can process them. Rows that are not
displayed in the Enterprise Manager are not processed and,
therefore, they remain in the network buffer.
The "Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode"
error occurs when an OLE-DB provider attempts to perform a
join transaction with results pending and while not in an
updateable cursor mode.
WORKAROUND
Scroll all the way down to the last row of the table. This
forces all the rows to be processed. You can then edit the
row needed and execute the update.
>--Original Message--
>I just got the following message after trying to update
>records in a sql table:
>"transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
>any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks
>.
>|||thanks Jim, I'll try it - Aaron's suggestion did not work.
regards!
>--Original Message--
>SYMPTOMS
>If you attempt to make changes to a row in a table
>displayed in SQL Server Enterprise Manager (SEM), unless
>you scroll down to the end of the table (the last row of
>the table), Enterprise Manager returns the following
>error:
>Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode.
>CAUSE
>When using SEM to display the rows from a table, all rows
>are returned by a "firehose cursor"; however, only the
>rows that are displayed have been processed. A "firehose
>cursor" refers to how the server sends rows to the client
>as fast as the client can process them. Rows that are not
>displayed in the Enterprise Manager are not processed
and,
>therefore, they remain in the network buffer.
>The "Cannot start transaction while in firehose mode"
>error occurs when an OLE-DB provider attempts to perform
a
>join transaction with results pending and while not in an
>updateable cursor mode.
>WORKAROUND
>Scroll all the way down to the last row of the table.
This
>forces all the rows to be processed. You can then edit
the
>row needed and execute the update.
>
>>--Original Message--
>>I just got the following message after trying to update
>>records in a sql table:
>>"transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
>>any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks
>>.
>.
>|||> Aaron's suggestion did not work.
What does "did not work" mean?
--
http://www.aspfaq.com/
(Reverse address to reply.)|||If you are in SEM, the Jim's response is the most likely cure... Until all
of the rows which you have chosen are displayed, the cursor for displaying
those rows is still open , and the connection can not do anything else...
So scroll to the bottom, then go back up and make your changes...
--
Wayne Snyder, MCDBA, SQL Server MVP
Mariner, Charlotte, NC
www.mariner-usa.com
(Please respond only to the newsgroups.)
I support the Professional Association of SQL Server (PASS) and it's
community of SQL Server professionals.
www.sqlpass.org
"Lisa P" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:940101c478a1$06a5e660$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
> I just got the following message after trying to update
> records in a sql table:
> "transaction cannot start while in firehouse mode"
> any ideas what the problem is? please advise and thanks

Firehouse mode

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Are you talking about some error message regarding a cursor in
*firehose* mode? Can you post the actual error message and the steps
you took to get there?
If you're talking about a firehose cursor message then a firehose cursor
is basically a read-only forward-only cursor. It is the default and
fastest cursor mode for retrieving data from SQL server (when using
cursors that is; but typically set-based queries are faster than
cursor-based queries).
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/acdata/ac_8_con_07_7d6b.asp
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--050201090909050805020409--|||Everything Mike said is accurate, so I won't add more detail about WHY it's
happening...
This is most commonly seen in Server Enterprise Manager, when you right
click a table and go "return all rows." Then, after modifying a row, you
can't save the table.
Return the row you want to modify through a query, or better yet, modify the
row from Query Analyzer.
Donna
"ncz" wrote:
> I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
> while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat'|||It basically means that the connection on which you are executing the query
has pending results - i.e. client app has not fetched the last row yet. One
possibility is that you have connection pooling enabled, but your app is not
properly cleaning up resources when queries fail, and leave connections
behind with pending results. The connection is then reused for another spid
and firehose error is raised. Try setting SET XACT_ABORT ON to force SQL to
clean up all resources on SQL error or timeout.
Seach http://support.microsoft.com for "firehose" for additional information
about this error and ways to resolve it.
Adrian
"ncz" <ncz@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ECE78504-DAFD-4C2E-8762-18A3A02144BB@.microsoft.com...
>I am getting a message to the effect that a transaction cannot be processes
> while SQL Server is in firehouse mode. whazat'

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