Hi all,
Our major client is moving to a more Mac-based environment. We have found a
number of different ways to work around SRS' browser limitations, but it
looks like there are some showstoppers. It seems that you can *mostly* work
around problems in Mac FireFox, but Safari is pretty hopeless, as is Mac IE.
For example, we aren't able to show charts in Safari, but they do work on
Mac FF, although the fonts are an issue. Spacing on tables is funky on any
browser other than IE6.0 on the PC, but you can use transparent GIFs set to
a specific size to force a particular table width. We generate our reports
for the Mac using a web service that talks to IE, then display them as PDFs,
rather than dealing with browser issues head-on, but this kills any
opportunity to do a dashboard with drill-through capability.
I'd love to hear what other workarounds people have come up with, because we
have had great success with SRS to date. Browser issues are getting to be a
showstopper, though, and we're starting to look at ColdFusion/Flash
reporting, which has some nice advantages in its new version...
JimIs this SRS 2000 or 2005? I know that ASP.NET 2005 is supposed to be
very Firefox / Safari friendly, so I am curious as to how SRS has
improved, if at all.
Jim wrote:
> Hi all,
> Our major client is moving to a more Mac-based environment. We have found a
> number of different ways to work around SRS' browser limitations, but it
> looks like there are some showstoppers. It seems that you can *mostly* work
> around problems in Mac FireFox, but Safari is pretty hopeless, as is Mac IE.
> For example, we aren't able to show charts in Safari, but they do work on
> Mac FF, although the fonts are an issue. Spacing on tables is funky on any
> browser other than IE6.0 on the PC, but you can use transparent GIFs set to
> a specific size to force a particular table width. We generate our reports
> for the Mac using a web service that talks to IE, then display them as PDFs,
> rather than dealing with browser issues head-on, but this kills any
> opportunity to do a dashboard with drill-through capability.
> I'd love to hear what other workarounds people have come up with, because we
> have had great success with SRS to date. Browser issues are getting to be a
> showstopper, though, and we're starting to look at ColdFusion/Flash
> reporting, which has some nice advantages in its new version...
> Jim
>|||SRS 2000. We can't switch yet. I'm not overly optimistic that MS will
really improve their browser support, but I'm certainly open to hear
something to the contrary. If you have any links to somebody impartial
(non-MS) who says FF & Safari are better supported, please let me know.
"Jeremy Hannon" <Jeremy.Hannon@.amr.net> wrote in message
news:ue$OU4J5FHA.2624@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Is this SRS 2000 or 2005? I know that ASP.NET 2005 is supposed to be very
> Firefox / Safari friendly, so I am curious as to how SRS has improved, if
> at all.
> Jim wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Our major client is moving to a more Mac-based environment. We have
>> found a number of different ways to work around SRS' browser limitations,
>> but it looks like there are some showstoppers. It seems that you can
>> *mostly* work around problems in Mac FireFox, but Safari is pretty
>> hopeless, as is Mac IE. For example, we aren't able to show charts in
>> Safari, but they do work on Mac FF, although the fonts are an issue.
>> Spacing on tables is funky on any
>> browser other than IE6.0 on the PC, but you can use transparent GIFs set
>> to a specific size to force a particular table width. We generate our
>> reports for the Mac using a web service that talks to IE, then display
>> them as PDFs, rather than dealing with browser issues head-on, but this
>> kills any opportunity to do a dashboard with drill-through capability.
>> I'd love to hear what other workarounds people have come up with, because
>> we have had great success with SRS to date. Browser issues are getting
>> to be a showstopper, though, and we're starting to look at
>> ColdFusion/Flash reporting, which has some nice advantages in its new
>> version...
>> Jim|||Better FF support was a design goal in 2005 but I don't know anyone who has
tested it yet.
I suggest getting the 120 day evaluation edition (SQL 2005). Note that you
can use RS 2005 with SQL 2000 as its object//metadata store.
Try it out and let us know if/how much has it improved. Sure seems worth
taking a little time to look at it versus totally switching to a new
product.
--
Bruce Loehle-Conger
MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
"Jim" <floopdog@.bodiddy.com> wrote in message
news:uTuoUAK5FHA.3384@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> SRS 2000. We can't switch yet. I'm not overly optimistic that MS will
> really improve their browser support, but I'm certainly open to hear
> something to the contrary. If you have any links to somebody impartial
> (non-MS) who says FF & Safari are better supported, please let me know.
> "Jeremy Hannon" <Jeremy.Hannon@.amr.net> wrote in message
> news:ue$OU4J5FHA.2624@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Is this SRS 2000 or 2005? I know that ASP.NET 2005 is supposed to be
>> very Firefox / Safari friendly, so I am curious as to how SRS has
>> improved, if at all.
>> Jim wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Our major client is moving to a more Mac-based environment. We have
>> found a number of different ways to work around SRS' browser
>> limitations, but it looks like there are some showstoppers. It seems
>> that you can *mostly* work around problems in Mac FireFox, but Safari is
>> pretty hopeless, as is Mac IE. For example, we aren't able to show
>> charts in Safari, but they do work on Mac FF, although the fonts are an
>> issue. Spacing on tables is funky on any
>> browser other than IE6.0 on the PC, but you can use transparent GIFs set
>> to a specific size to force a particular table width. We generate our
>> reports for the Mac using a web service that talks to IE, then display
>> them as PDFs, rather than dealing with browser issues head-on, but this
>> kills any opportunity to do a dashboard with drill-through capability.
>> I'd love to hear what other workarounds people have come up with,
>> because we have had great success with SRS to date. Browser issues are
>> getting to be a showstopper, though, and we're starting to look at
>> ColdFusion/Flash reporting, which has some nice advantages in its new
>> version...
>> Jim
>|||FF is good, but of course Safari is the default browser on the Mac. As
you're aware, 80% of people never change their defaults on their computers.
While it's good if FF is better supported, we've met quite a few Mac users
who'd never even *heard* of FF, much less use it.
Probably we will get the SRS 2005 eval and work with it, but the lack of
Safari support is discouraging. This seems to be a Microsoft wide thing:
the .NET 2.0 Beta 2 didn't work at all with Safari, in any way. We'll see
how things go now that it's been released...
Thanks, Jim
"Bruce L-C [MVP]" <bruce_lcNOSPAM@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uzviJDT5FHA.476@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Better FF support was a design goal in 2005 but I don't know anyone who
> has tested it yet.
> I suggest getting the 120 day evaluation edition (SQL 2005). Note that you
> can use RS 2005 with SQL 2000 as its object//metadata store.
> Try it out and let us know if/how much has it improved. Sure seems worth
> taking a little time to look at it versus totally switching to a new
> product.
> --
> Bruce Loehle-Conger
> MVP SQL Server Reporting Services
> "Jim" <floopdog@.bodiddy.com> wrote in message
> news:uTuoUAK5FHA.3384@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> SRS 2000. We can't switch yet. I'm not overly optimistic that MS will
>> really improve their browser support, but I'm certainly open to hear
>> something to the contrary. If you have any links to somebody impartial
>> (non-MS) who says FF & Safari are better supported, please let me know.
>> "Jeremy Hannon" <Jeremy.Hannon@.amr.net> wrote in message
>> news:ue$OU4J5FHA.2624@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Is this SRS 2000 or 2005? I know that ASP.NET 2005 is supposed to be
>> very Firefox / Safari friendly, so I am curious as to how SRS has
>> improved, if at all.
>> Jim wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Our major client is moving to a more Mac-based environment. We have
>> found a number of different ways to work around SRS' browser
>> limitations, but it looks like there are some showstoppers. It seems
>> that you can *mostly* work around problems in Mac FireFox, but Safari
>> is pretty hopeless, as is Mac IE. For example, we aren't able to show
>> charts in Safari, but they do work on Mac FF, although the fonts are an
>> issue. Spacing on tables is funky on any
>> browser other than IE6.0 on the PC, but you can use transparent GIFs
>> set to a specific size to force a particular table width. We generate
>> our reports for the Mac using a web service that talks to IE, then
>> display them as PDFs, rather than dealing with browser issues head-on,
>> but this kills any opportunity to do a dashboard with drill-through
>> capability.
>> I'd love to hear what other workarounds people have come up with,
>> because we have had great success with SRS to date. Browser issues are
>> getting to be a showstopper, though, and we're starting to look at
>> ColdFusion/Flash reporting, which has some nice advantages in its new
>> version...
>> Jim
>>
>|||I hate to say it but I've just tried FireFox on a really simple tabular
report with 2005 and its a complete mess. Maybe I'm missing something
but I started with a blank report, added a table and dropped in three
fields from a dataset driven from a simple select query.
It looks good on I.E. but in FireFox 1.5 the column widths are close to
zero. I only see part of the first letter in each column. Setting it to
render in HTML3.2 at least makes the data visible but column widths are
still nowhere near right.
I'm I doing something wrong? The rest of the whole 2005 stuff is
awesome, I appreciate all the hard work, but this is a big
disappointment.
Cheers
Ross|||I concur. I just tried several reports it in FireFox 1.5 and they
look...like chicken scratches. In FireFox, I now use Tools->'Always
View This Page in IE' options on the reporting website. Mind you, I'm
using the website that calls the reporting services' web service (whoa,
stay with me here), and then renders it in ASP.NET (.NET 1.1).
I shouldn't have to rewrite the rewrite the web control in order for it
to be web standard compliant.
tetranz wrote:
> I hate to say it but I've just tried FireFox on a really simple tabular
> report with 2005 and its a complete mess. Maybe I'm missing something
> but I started with a blank report, added a table and dropped in three
> fields from a dataset driven from a simple select query.
> It looks good on I.E. but in FireFox 1.5 the column widths are close to
> zero. I only see part of the first letter in each column. Setting it to
> render in HTML3.2 at least makes the data visible but column widths are
> still nowhere near right.
> I'm I doing something wrong? The rest of the whole 2005 stuff is
> awesome, I appreciate all the hard work, but this is a big
> disappointment.
> Cheers
> Ross|||We've been working with RS 2005 for about a week, and I have to express
tremendous disappointment that not a single report we have will render
correctly in Firefox. They're completely unreadable.
For a good laugh, take a look at the ridiculous HTML errors in the XML
template.
"Roy Assaly" wrote:
> I concur. I just tried several reports it in FireFox 1.5 and they
> look...like chicken scratches. In FireFox, I now use Tools->'Always
> View This Page in IE' options on the reporting website. Mind you, I'm
> using the website that calls the reporting services' web service (whoa,
> stay with me here), and then renders it in ASP.NET (.NET 1.1).
> I shouldn't have to rewrite the rewrite the web control in order for it
> to be web standard compliant.
> tetranz wrote:
> > I hate to say it but I've just tried FireFox on a really simple tabular
> > report with 2005 and its a complete mess. Maybe I'm missing something
> > but I started with a blank report, added a table and dropped in three
> > fields from a dataset driven from a simple select query.
> >
> > It looks good on I.E. but in FireFox 1.5 the column widths are close to
> > zero. I only see part of the first letter in each column. Setting it to
> > render in HTML3.2 at least makes the data visible but column widths are
> > still nowhere near right.
> >
> > I'm I doing something wrong? The rest of the whole 2005 stuff is
> > awesome, I appreciate all the hard work, but this is a big
> > disappointment.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ross
>|||Hi! Jim
Have you found a solution for this problem? I am running into the same
problem. Any tricks would be very helpful.
Thanks!
Lixin
"Jim" wrote:
> Hi all,
> Our major client is moving to a more Mac-based environment. We have found a
> number of different ways to work around SRS' browser limitations, but it
> looks like there are some showstoppers. It seems that you can *mostly* work
> around problems in Mac FireFox, but Safari is pretty hopeless, as is Mac IE.
> For example, we aren't able to show charts in Safari, but they do work on
> Mac FF, although the fonts are an issue. Spacing on tables is funky on any
> browser other than IE6.0 on the PC, but you can use transparent GIFs set to
> a specific size to force a particular table width. We generate our reports
> for the Mac using a web service that talks to IE, then display them as PDFs,
> rather than dealing with browser issues head-on, but this kills any
> opportunity to do a dashboard with drill-through capability.
> I'd love to hear what other workarounds people have come up with, because we
> have had great success with SRS to date. Browser issues are getting to be a
> showstopper, though, and we're starting to look at ColdFusion/Flash
> reporting, which has some nice advantages in its new version...
> Jim
>
>
2012年2月19日星期日
Firefox vs IE, make RS always open in IE?
I use Firefox as my default browser on my development machine for
RS2005 with SS2005.
I solved the authentication problem by setting IE to Tools, Security,
Intranet to User Authentication, Logon, all the way down at the bottom
of the list to Automatic logon with current user name and password.
BUT I still get the rendering errors...reports don't look right, etc.,
I have not seen any fixes in this list.
Is it possible for me to make the Reports and ReportServer sites on my
dev box to always open in IE and not in Firefox'
Thank you, TomI also use Firefox, I use the IE View extension to always view in IE.
Unfortunatelly for me our web app will also support Firefox and the reports
go along with that. Microsoft RS does not support Firefox and I haven't
seen any thing that states that they plan to. I think there are two main
issues, the Chart height and table column widths. We don't have the chart
height issue because we use Dundas and they don't appear to have the same
problem...which is kind of interesting since they also write the native
chart in RS. They are forced into using the custom control set of
interfaces which means they have image quality issues due to the limitations
in RS, but for this matter they are better. The other problem we have been
able to fix with the empty wide textbox scattered above tables. This idea
comes from the notes from Jon Galloway in the link below.
Thanks,
Steve MunLeeuw
Here are my notes:
Hi Max,
Thank you for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup Support.
I understand that your report does not show the right format in Firefox
browser.
Unfortunately, Microsoft does not support any browsers other than Internet
Explorer. All the Render Extension in Reporting Services are developed
against IE. So there is no way to guarantee that Reporting Services will
perform well with other browsers.
Please understand that we don't have an environment to reproduce and
troubleshoot your issue, but please feel free to involve me during the
process of contacting third-party support, I am glad to provide any
information.
Sincerely,
Wei Lu
Microsoft Online Community Support
/* Fix report IFRAME height for Firefox */
.DocMapAndReportFrame
{
min-height: 860px;
}
--removed .css fix from dev
machinehttp://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2006/09/01/SQL-Reporting-Services-_2D00_-CSS-fix-for-Firefox.aspx
"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161702061.967677.79830@.e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>I use Firefox as my default browser on my development machine for
> RS2005 with SS2005.
> I solved the authentication problem by setting IE to Tools, Security,
> Intranet to User Authentication, Logon, all the way down at the bottom
> of the list to Automatic logon with current user name and password.
> BUT I still get the rendering errors...reports don't look right, etc.,
> I have not seen any fixes in this list.
> Is it possible for me to make the Reports and ReportServer sites on my
> dev box to always open in IE and not in Firefox'
> Thank you, Tom
>
RS2005 with SS2005.
I solved the authentication problem by setting IE to Tools, Security,
Intranet to User Authentication, Logon, all the way down at the bottom
of the list to Automatic logon with current user name and password.
BUT I still get the rendering errors...reports don't look right, etc.,
I have not seen any fixes in this list.
Is it possible for me to make the Reports and ReportServer sites on my
dev box to always open in IE and not in Firefox'
Thank you, TomI also use Firefox, I use the IE View extension to always view in IE.
Unfortunatelly for me our web app will also support Firefox and the reports
go along with that. Microsoft RS does not support Firefox and I haven't
seen any thing that states that they plan to. I think there are two main
issues, the Chart height and table column widths. We don't have the chart
height issue because we use Dundas and they don't appear to have the same
problem...which is kind of interesting since they also write the native
chart in RS. They are forced into using the custom control set of
interfaces which means they have image quality issues due to the limitations
in RS, but for this matter they are better. The other problem we have been
able to fix with the empty wide textbox scattered above tables. This idea
comes from the notes from Jon Galloway in the link below.
Thanks,
Steve MunLeeuw
Here are my notes:
Hi Max,
Thank you for using MSDN Managed Newsgroup Support.
I understand that your report does not show the right format in Firefox
browser.
Unfortunately, Microsoft does not support any browsers other than Internet
Explorer. All the Render Extension in Reporting Services are developed
against IE. So there is no way to guarantee that Reporting Services will
perform well with other browsers.
Please understand that we don't have an environment to reproduce and
troubleshoot your issue, but please feel free to involve me during the
process of contacting third-party support, I am glad to provide any
information.
Sincerely,
Wei Lu
Microsoft Online Community Support
/* Fix report IFRAME height for Firefox */
.DocMapAndReportFrame
{
min-height: 860px;
}
--removed .css fix from dev
machinehttp://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2006/09/01/SQL-Reporting-Services-_2D00_-CSS-fix-for-Firefox.aspx
"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161702061.967677.79830@.e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>I use Firefox as my default browser on my development machine for
> RS2005 with SS2005.
> I solved the authentication problem by setting IE to Tools, Security,
> Intranet to User Authentication, Logon, all the way down at the bottom
> of the list to Automatic logon with current user name and password.
> BUT I still get the rendering errors...reports don't look right, etc.,
> I have not seen any fixes in this list.
> Is it possible for me to make the Reports and ReportServer sites on my
> dev box to always open in IE and not in Firefox'
> Thank you, Tom
>
Firefox browser support
Hi all,
We are trying to use SQL RS 2005 at our Company. We have a mix of MAC and
Windows users and I am trying to see whether RS 2005 can work with FireFox. I
created a simple matrix report and the rendering is quite bad, fields dont
have the right widths (IE shows correctly).
How do I get the matrix reports to show correctly in Firefox? Even if it is
extra code that needs to be written somewhere, thats fine. I just want to
have an idea of where to write the code (to show right widths for fields) and
how to implement the code? Any suggestions?
I know the firefox support for RS 2005 has become a FAQ, but I would like to
explore the work-arounds that can be done.
ThanksSeventhSense wrote:
> Hi all,
> We are trying to use SQL RS 2005 at our Company. We have a mix of MAC and
> Windows users and I am trying to see whether RS 2005 can work with FireFox. I
> created a simple matrix report and the rendering is quite bad, fields dont
> have the right widths (IE shows correctly).
> How do I get the matrix reports to show correctly in Firefox? Even if it is
> extra code that needs to be written somewhere, thats fine. I just want to
> have an idea of where to write the code (to show right widths for fields) and
> how to implement the code? Any suggestions?
> I know the firefox support for RS 2005 has become a FAQ, but I would like to
> explore the work-arounds that can be done.
> Thanks
I am having the same problem. I could tell that the data are shown in
firefox, however, it is so tiny that it is not legible, but they show
up nicely in IE.
Any good solution? Thanks.
We are trying to use SQL RS 2005 at our Company. We have a mix of MAC and
Windows users and I am trying to see whether RS 2005 can work with FireFox. I
created a simple matrix report and the rendering is quite bad, fields dont
have the right widths (IE shows correctly).
How do I get the matrix reports to show correctly in Firefox? Even if it is
extra code that needs to be written somewhere, thats fine. I just want to
have an idea of where to write the code (to show right widths for fields) and
how to implement the code? Any suggestions?
I know the firefox support for RS 2005 has become a FAQ, but I would like to
explore the work-arounds that can be done.
ThanksSeventhSense wrote:
> Hi all,
> We are trying to use SQL RS 2005 at our Company. We have a mix of MAC and
> Windows users and I am trying to see whether RS 2005 can work with FireFox. I
> created a simple matrix report and the rendering is quite bad, fields dont
> have the right widths (IE shows correctly).
> How do I get the matrix reports to show correctly in Firefox? Even if it is
> extra code that needs to be written somewhere, thats fine. I just want to
> have an idea of where to write the code (to show right widths for fields) and
> how to implement the code? Any suggestions?
> I know the firefox support for RS 2005 has become a FAQ, but I would like to
> explore the work-arounds that can be done.
> Thanks
I am having the same problem. I could tell that the data are shown in
firefox, however, it is so tiny that it is not legible, but they show
up nicely in IE.
Any good solution? Thanks.
Firefox and other non-IE browsers(again)
I've seen many posts about lack of non-IE browser compatibility, but still no solution (MyIEtab ISN'T a solution). The CSS fix solves it partially, but not completely, and the fix of putting a rectangle in the top is just a joke.
Currently my reports can't be browsed by Firefox and other Mac browsers, and that's going to be a stopper for further using of SSRS in the future in my company. I was expecting SP2 to do something about this, but it hasn't solved anything. I'm sure it's a very easy patch for MS, but by maintaining this (artificial?) limitation they're going to make us move from SSRS and even the full SQL Server stack for future projects.
Any other *real* solution, other than CSS and big rectangle in the top of the report?This could be a huge problem for my client also.
I wonder how many customers Microsoft lost over this. I know it is free and all (with Sql Server), but doesn't do much for customer confidence.
Firefox and other non-IE browsers(again)
I've seen many posts about lack of non-IE browser compatibility, but still no solution (MyIEtab ISN'T a solution). The CSS fix solves it partially, but not completely, and the fix of putting a rectangle in the top is just a joke.
Currently my reports can't be browsed by Firefox and other Mac browsers, and that's going to be a stopper for further using of SSRS in the future in my company. I was expecting SP2 to do something about this, but it hasn't solved anything. I'm sure it's a very easy patch for MS, but by maintaining this (artificial?) limitation they're going to make us move from SSRS and even the full SQL Server stack for future projects.
Any other *real* solution, other than CSS and big rectangle in the top of the report?
This could be a huge problem for my client also.
I wonder how many customers Microsoft lost over this. I know it is free and all (with Sql Server), but doesn't do much for customer confidence.
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